I think you guys are missing the point ok d8b isnt the best sounding mixer it has been around for quite a while now so that isnt surprising butseeing as it is cheaper than a procontrol and slightly more expensive than control 24 it non the less has 24 faders or is it 16 ahs preamps that are reasonable has plugins etc it can but be value for money than either of the digi offerings hopefully digi will drop their prices. Sorry this can only be a good thing.